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为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 13:12:02+08:00

[OpenAI] 为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech v2ex.com 2026-04-23 13:12:02+08:00

[OpenAI] 为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech v2ex.com 2026-04-23 13:12:02+08:00

为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 13:12:02+08:00

求推荐适用于 gpt-image-2 的可安装的客户端

模型是 API 中转站买的，给公司的设计师配，所以最好能直接安装。试了 cherry studio 发现有各种毛病最好能支持文生图和图生图 1 个帖子 - 1 位参与者阅读完整话题

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tech linux.do 2026-04-23 13:10:13+08:00

DeepSeek V4 这周会出吗？

国产模型是不是要崛起了

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 13:09:23+08:00

字节跳动发布 3D 生成大模型 Seed3D 2.0，在几何 / 纹理材质生成上取得 SOTA

IT之家 4 月 23 日消息，字节跳动今日正式发布更高精度的新一代 3D 生成大模型 —— Seed3D 2.0 ，目前 Seed3D 2.0 技术报告已公开，API 也已上线火山引擎。字节跳动表示，在与现有 3D 生成模型的对比评测中，Seed3D 2.0 在几何生成、

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tech www.ithome.com 2026-04-23 12:48:48+08:00

DeepSeek V4 这周会出吗？

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 12:45:34+08:00

Deepseek招聘多模态安全-模型策略产品经理

app.mokahr.com DeepSeek招聘 2026年幻方量化社会招聘正在进行，点击申请职位为不存在的东西安全吗 3 个帖子 - 3 位参与者阅读完整话题

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tech linux.do 2026-04-23 12:36:03+08:00

DeepSeek V4 这周会出吗？

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 12:31:01+08:00

混元3.0已上线元宝网页版

之前的hy模型都挺拉的不知道这次怎么样 10 个帖子 - 8 位参与者阅读完整话题

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tech linux.do 2026-04-23 12:19:03+08:00

DeepSeek V4 这周会出吗？

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 12:19:00+08:00

自建了 GPT Coding Plan，遇到了定价问题，请教大家

自建的 Coding Plan ，gpt-5.3-codex 和 gpt 5.4 模型 coding 时候的正常首 token 返回，响应基本不超过 1 秒（ 5W input token 左右的情况）这个 plan 是面向 coding 用户的，现在计划在下面两种定价方式里选

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 12:16:59+08:00

Claude有文档助手了

有没有佬研究研究是个什么模型，能不能和cursor一样（（ 1 个帖子 - 1 位参与者阅读完整话题

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tech linux.do 2026-04-23 12:13:04+08:00

DeepSeek V4 这周会出吗？

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 12:12:19+08:00

[OpenAI] 为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech v2ex.com 2026-04-23 12:05:02+08:00

[OpenAI] 为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech v2ex.com 2026-04-23 12:05:02+08:00

[OpenAI] 为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech v2ex.com 2026-04-23 12:05:02+08:00

为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 12:03:00+08:00

[OpenAI] 为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

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