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火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买啊，群里全是要退款的，又卡又慢，额度消耗的还特别快

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 22:07:54+08:00

为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 22:07:46+08:00

[职场话题] 为什么感觉 AI 出现之后，反而好像失去了对开发的热爱？

自从 AI 火起来，vibe coding 成为了主流，都不太愿意去看掘金，v 站这类的社区了，感觉产出内容和以前差别好大，感觉好多好多都是一眼 AI 文章，看到就开始烦躁。而且自己好像也变了，好像失去了学技术做网站，去熬夜钻研技术的热情了。现在的我依然在做开发，但是想的确是

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tech v2ex.com 2026-04-23 21:58:15+08:00

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买啊，群里全是要退款的，又卡又慢，额度消耗的还特别快

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 21:20:07+08:00

抽 GLM Coding Plan 体验卡（3张）

奖品详情：抽奖主题：[GLM Coding Plan体验卡（3张）] 奖品详情： GLM Coding Plan体验卡（3张） PS：无法使用 GLM 5.1 活动时间：开始时间： Thu, Apr 23, 2026 9:17 PM CST 截止时间： Fri, Apr 24

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tech linux.do 2026-04-23 21:19:51+08:00

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买啊，群里全是要退款的，又卡又慢，额度消耗的还特别快

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 21:14:19+08:00

为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 21:07:46+08:00

工业软件的大佬们是怎么 vibe coding 的

经常需要写一些 qt winform 之类的客户端，一直想加快效率，一直都找不到合适的方式，codex claude code 可以适配 qt winform 之类的开发吗

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 20:49:42+08:00

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买啊，群里全是要退款的，又卡又慢，额度消耗的还特别快

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 20:46:23+08:00

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买啊，群里全是要退款的，又卡又慢，额度消耗的还特别快

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 20:42:46+08:00

[职场话题] 为什么感觉 AI 出现之后，反而好像失去了对开发的热爱？

自从 AI 火起来，vibe coding 成为了主流，都不太愿意去看掘金，v 站这类的社区了，感觉产出内容和以前差别好大，感觉好多好多都是一眼 AI 文章，看到就开始烦躁。而且自己好像也变了，好像失去了学技术做网站，去熬夜钻研技术的热情了。现在的我依然在做开发，但是想的确是

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tech v2ex.com 2026-04-23 20:28:14+08:00

[职场话题] 为什么感觉 AI 出现之后，反而好像失去了对开发的热爱？

自从 AI 火起来，vibe coding 成为了主流，都不太愿意去看掘金，v 站这类的社区了，感觉产出内容和以前差别好大，感觉好多好多都是一眼 AI 文章，看到就开始烦躁。而且自己好像也变了，好像失去了学技术做网站，去熬夜钻研技术的热情了。现在的我依然在做开发，但是想的确是

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tech v2ex.com 2026-04-23 20:18:20+08:00

为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 20:07:46+08:00

为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 20:07:46+08:00

为啥感觉 gpt 比国产模型便宜多了，是错觉吗？

国产是 coding plan 和 api 便宜，但是产品级订阅贵得要死，gpt 20 刀几乎畅用，国产你跑几个复杂点的任务就限额了，堪比 claude 20 刀的感觉（如果是入门套餐还不如 claude 20 刀）。你让它给你根据几份文件，做个 ppt 之类，它都能很快撞限额，

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 20:07:46+08:00

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买啊，群里全是要退款的，又卡又慢，额度消耗的还特别快

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 20:04:07+08:00

工业软件的大佬们是怎么 vibe coding 的

经常需要写一些 qt winform 之类的客户端，一直想加快效率，一直都找不到合适的方式，codex claude code 可以适配 qt winform 之类的开发吗

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 19:49:42+08:00

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买

火山方舟 Coding Plan 慎买啊，群里全是要退款的，又卡又慢，额度消耗的还特别快

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 19:49:23+08:00

大家是如何使用 codex

还没正式开始用。后面想尝试下 vibe coding 。好奇大家是直接使用 codex 桌面客户端还是使用 codex cli 进行编程的啊

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tech www.v2ex.com 2026-04-23 19:30:15+08:00

[职场话题] 为什么感觉 AI 出现之后，反而好像失去了对开发的热爱？

自从 AI 火起来，vibe coding 成为了主流，都不太愿意去看掘金，v 站这类的社区了，感觉产出内容和以前差别好大，感觉好多好多都是一眼 AI 文章，看到就开始烦躁。而且自己好像也变了，好像失去了学技术做网站，去熬夜钻研技术的热情了。现在的我依然在做开发，但是想的确是

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